Can you explain further? What kind of lag?mrfox wrote:- music seems to lag sometimes (maybe it's an issue on my side, not sure)
It's a random short crack or stop during playback (experienced on 2 computers). Could be an unlucky driver issue or something though.Tom wrote:Can you explain further? What kind of lag?mrfox wrote:- music seems to lag sometimes (maybe it's an issue on my side, not sure)
I haven't experienced anything like this before on my test systems. With buffer underruns audio usually hangs in a loop, but that's it. Does this happen on low-end machines?mrfox wrote:It's a random short crack or stop during playback (experienced on 2 computers). Could be an unlucky driver issue or something though.Tom wrote:Can you explain further? What kind of lag?mrfox wrote:- music seems to lag sometimes (maybe it's an issue on my side, not sure)
Actually both on low-end and high-end. By the way on my work computer (low-end one) I usually listen to music shared over network (smb).Tom wrote: I haven't experienced anything like this before on my test systems. With buffer underruns audio usually hangs in a loop, but that's it. Does this happen on low-end machines?
Alright, thanks!mrfox wrote:Actually both on low-end and high-end. By the way on my work computer (low-end one) I usually listen to music shared over network (smb).
On my home PC the issue seems to be gone (or got really rare) after setting the bit rate to 16 bit in windows audio settings. I'll try the same tomorrow at work and report back my findings.
Intentionally cut off @ 16k, yes, as most music is cut off at 16k (or 18k) anyways. Full range is reserved for the Pro.- Seems the Spectrum analyzer (linear) doesn't show the correct range, goes only up to 16028.8. Maybe intended for linear?
Same as in regular folders in Explorer, ain't it?When changing the sort order on either column it doesn't remember the direction when changing another one. Every other is up, down, up down... If you change direction it will be down, up, down, up...
Yep, needs to remind me to add a setting: stop, flip, continue in next folder.- You can loop the list when pressing down key (pressing down on the last will take you to the first one), but not when doing same with up key.
Intended, but gets an option.Progress bar not visible in Windows' taskbar if you've Resonic focused.
Well, that's a weird one, because you should be able to click anywhere into the volume bar and jump directly to that volume. It seems it's different for you?No menu when you right click on Volume bar on the filled part.
- When changing volume, make it possible to click and drag on the the filled part to jump directly to that value like you can on the light part.
Fair enough.Intentionally cut off @ 16k, yes, as most music is cut off at 16k (or 18k) anyways. Full range is reserved for the Pro.
Seems like that.Same as in regular folders in Explorer, ain't it?
Thanks.Intended, but gets an option.
Don't know, works now. Changed theme. Could've been after I came home after using TeamViewer, it turns off Aero.Well, that's a weird one, because you should be able to click anywhere into the volume bar and jump directly to that volume. It seems it's different for you?
I think the new columns are great, I like that you can get rid of some categories. Some other category options would be nice, like one showing ratings or play count for example. I have also noticed the scans are alot quicker than the previous version. I also like the option to hide the mouse cursor inside the visualization, works great !Tom wrote:@caseya21: Great!
What's your thoughts on the new columns vs. auto-resizing columns of the previous releases? Trying to do both, somehow.
Yep, (reading) ratings is basically done, but not enabled. I'll put it into the next pre for testing. It's not in the public releases because writing ratings is not yet supported, which might confuse some users.I think the new columns are great, I like that you can get rid of some categories. Some other category options would be nice, like one showing ratings or play count for example.
Searching ain't that easy because of the system I'm using for displaying the content. It'd take a bit to explain why, though. For short I don't want to sacrifice much of the overall performance, still need to figure out a fast way of doing this. Also, I'm experimenting with various methods of filtering content, for example: http://resonic.at/labs/25I am not sure if it has been mentioned, probably has but I was thinking if there was a way to search either within a folder or within a directory. Not sure if that is easy or hard to implement.
Absolutely!On your part when you are posting these pre-releases in the future, it might be nice to know if there is a feature or option you are specifically worried about or would like an opinion on so we can target that and come back with specific feedback.
Well yeah, that'd require me to scan all content, which is also the main problem with text search right now. I need something hybrid for now.Andreasvb wrote:If for auto-resizing, make so it compacts the column to the smallest width depending of amount of length of the longest word/content.
Mmh, was thinking about something pretty neat: having different sets of columns for maximized/restored states, e.g. simple set of columns when Resonic is windowed, extended set of columns when Resonic is maximized.Not sure what would be best, maybe have a weight on what columns are more important and hide others depending how wide/narrow the window is?
Indeed. Will go with a dialog for this one for now.Rearranging columns would be good.
Yeah, I've tested Hokrain quite a bit a while ago. It's definitely one of the better attempts, although the interface feels heaps weird, wave cannot be resized, and it's pretty buggy.Also, found another small audio player. Hokrain.
It loads folders and scans waveform really fast.
The theming and behaviour of the window is also a bit out of the regular.
It feels really smooth as well.
Seems like it was a problem with bitrates and some bad luck really. I haven't experienced the issue today.Tom wrote:Alright, thanks!mrfox wrote:Actually both on low-end and high-end. By the way on my work computer (low-end one) I usually listen to music shared over network (smb).
On my home PC the issue seems to be gone (or got really rare) after setting the bit rate to 16 bit in windows audio settings. I'll try the same tomorrow at work and report back my findings.
Okay, good to know.mrfox wrote:Seems like it was a problem with bitrates and some bad luck really. I haven't experienced the issue today.
Seems it stopped in 2011, found it recently though, via http://www.portablefreeware.com/Tom wrote:Edit: Do they still develop Hokrain? Seems like it's stopped?
you mean menu | playback | sequential?caseya21 wrote:Is there a way to enable continuous playback within a folder in this release ? I don't know if I am just missing it or something.
i think you missed the point of pre-release testing.DeepY wrote:Hi, Resonic!
I would like:
1. pic of album track (when clicked on open the folder with the track).
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10. right-click on the track - paragraph menu properties.
true, not really intended, but then again intendedBTGbullseye wrote:The one that I noticed that wasn't an intentional change was the arrow key looping issue posted by Andreasvb.
it's kind of a reminder to myself to work out a solution for wrapping modes or something.as i said, this is reserved for pro version.I would like to request that you change the spectrum analyzers to have a 10Hz - 18kHz range... (most songs I know of have lots of high-end detail that would look good with those ranges in both visualizations)
yeah, this happens because of rounding. values won't always be the same, but this doesn't really affect accuracy much. there is only so much accuracy i can provide.Oh, almost posted before I noticed another bug with the visualizations... The range it displays is variable depending on how wide the visualization is. At the default window width I get 11.7Hz - 47700.1Hz in logarithmic, in the narrowest window I can get it to 11.7Hz - 47433.0Hz, and maximized gives 11.7Hz - 47740.8Hz.
from changelog:Another bug I just found... After resizing the visualization beyond about half the window height it won't shade the progress for the song regardless of the setting for it in the menu or after restarting the program. (also happening in Alpha 755)
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+ New option to disable the translucent color overlays shading the played
area of the waveform in 'Menu | Visualization'.
Enabling this option is mainly a design choice, but it can also help reduce
processor usage quite a bit, depending on the waveform size.
If you're in for performance over visuals make sure you enable this.
Note that in any case the overlay is only drawn up to a certain waveform height,
and is not drawn for very short sound files.i know, but i can't change that right now.Another... If you move the mouse pointer rapidly in the visualization area, the visualization appears to increase it's update rate. (now I sit there all the time just moving my mouse cursor in there to see the faster update rate, I like it)(also happening in Alpha 755)
I get that, I was meaning if you have say 15 tracks in a folder and they play through entirely once the last song finishes playing the music ends. Instead of starting over and playing the first track again. I thought that was happening, maybe I read wrong.Tom wrote:you mean menu | playback | sequential?caseya21 wrote:Is there a way to enable continuous playback within a folder in this release ? I don't know if I am just missing it or something.
thought i broke something with sequential playback, hence my questioncaseya21 wrote:I get that, I was meaning if you have say 15 tracks in a folder and they play through entirely once the last song finishes playing the music ends. Instead of starting over and playing the first track again. I thought that was happening, maybe I read wrong.
I understand.Tom wrote:true, not really intended, but then again intendedBTGbullseye wrote:The one that I noticed that wasn't an intentional change was the arrow key looping issue posted by Andreasvb.
to be honest right now most of the time is going into design. i'm trying out tons of methods of accomplishing something and i'm really unhappy with most of them
Ok, was just kinda hoping... (I'm a broke audiophile that likes wibbly-wobbly things)Tom wrote:as i said, this is reserved for pro version.I would like to request that you change the spectrum analyzers to have a 10Hz - 18kHz range... (most songs I know of have lots of high-end detail that would look good with those ranges in both visualizations)
remember, for most regular users - who have no idea what an analyzer is, or how to use it - this is only eye candy, something that moves and is kinda neat to look at. it's really more neat to look at when it's always in full use, horizontally.
Ok. I just wanted to add that it also drops the range on the logarithmic to 10.8Hz - 21940.8Hz when I have the visualization pulled to be taller. Does it just scale the visualization based on the visual area, (height/width are linked) or does it adjust the visualization dynamically? (height/width adjust independently)Tom wrote:yeah, this happens because of rounding. values won't always be the same, but this doesn't really affect accuracy much. there is only so much accuracy i can provide.Oh, almost posted before I noticed another bug with the visualizations... The range it displays is variable depending on how wide the visualization is. At the default window width I get 11.7Hz - 47700.1Hz in logarithmic, in the narrowest window I can get it to 11.7Hz - 47433.0Hz, and maximized gives 11.7Hz - 47740.8Hz.
Ah, I guess I just didn't understand what you meant by 'overlay' when I read that... Nevermind then. (and thanks for the clarification)Tom wrote:from changelog:Another bug I just found... After resizing the visualization beyond about half the window height it won't shade the progress for the song regardless of the setting for it in the menu or after restarting the program. (also happening in Alpha 755)this is to take the strain off the cpu.Code: Select all
+ New option to disable the translucent color overlays shading the played area of the waveform in 'Menu | Visualization'. Enabling this option is mainly a design choice, but it can also help reduce processor usage quite a bit, depending on the waveform size. If you're in for performance over visuals make sure you enable this. Note that in any case the overlay is only drawn up to a certain waveform height, and is not drawn for very short sound files.
Sounds good.Tom wrote:i know, but i can't change that right now.Another... If you move the mouse pointer rapidly in the visualization area, the visualization appears to increase it's update rate. (now I sit there all the time just moving my mouse cursor in there to see the faster update rate, I like it)(also happening in Alpha 755)
i always have to keep in mind the trade-off between update performance and cpu usage. i might add various speed settings later, but for now it's just no use taking up 30% cpu just for faster updates.
the range on the log analyzer should always be half the sample rate, as it currently displays all available content, and should not be influenced by the window size.BTGbullseye wrote:Ok. I just wanted to add that it also drops the range on the logarithmic to 10.8Hz - 21940.8Hz when I have the visualization pulled to be taller. Does it just scale the visualization based on the visual area, (height/width are linked) or does it adjust the visualization dynamically? (height/width adjust independently)
Ah, OK.Tom wrote:the range on the log analyzer should always be half the sample rate, as it currently displays all available content, and should not be influenced by the window size.BTGbullseye wrote:Ok. I just wanted to add that it also drops the range on the logarithmic to 10.8Hz - 21940.8Hz when I have the visualization pulled to be taller. Does it just scale the visualization based on the visual area, (height/width are linked) or does it adjust the visualization dynamically? (height/width adjust independently)
it adjusts the visualization dynamically, i.e. h/w independently.