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Alpha 0.5.8a Build 7053 RC [Alpha 999]

This is the Alpha 999 release candidate.

Please re-read the Alpha 999 part of whatsnew.txt -
I've added lots of usability updates and re-ordered many of the changelog items.

Continuation of: http://forums.resonic.at/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=151

Thanks!
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Now I have the slow closing problem (on my PC at work) discussed in the previous thread. Something I noticed in the Windows Resource Monitor is that Resonic writes a db-journal file on several different threads, even after the application window is disappeared for a few seconds.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

I also experienced the slow shutdown (approx +2 sec.) yesterday, but only when I started vanilla builds without database files. My default installation (with large database files) doesn't behave this way.

Will look into this later today!
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Slow shutdown problem hasn't been solved for me, too.
Experiencing it since day one..
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Please concentrate on testing the actual build, the shutdown delay I'm more than aware of already.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Made another special build for the slow shutdown issue:

Whoever happens to experience this issue please run this version and, right after a slow shutdown has occured, post the newly created ProfileRelease.log file.

This will greatly help in finding the cause, because I cannot seem to reproduce it on any of my systems.

The more different logs the better.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Noticed that navigating with the arrow keys results in a different focus behaviour than navigating with the mouse (light blue). Is this intentional?

Log with after slow-shutdown also attatched.

And I'm really liking the light gray which is highlighting the "active" list-column.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

PHM wrote:Log with after slow-shutdown also attatched.
Refined the logging and updated the build. Could you please re-download the new zip and post another log?
PHM wrote:Noticed that navigating with the arrow keys results in a different focus behaviour than navigating with the mouse (light blue). Is this intentional?
This behavior is somewhat different from classic Windows, but fully intended. The arrow keys control the selection which can be different than the active file (playing, paused, stopped). This might need a little bit of getting used to at first, but will make a lot of sense with features like locked selections and such (imagine using the arrow keys without losing the selection).
And I'm really liking the light gray which is highlighting the "active" list-column.
:)
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Tom wrote:Made another special build for the slow shutdown issue:
Interesting... I can't reproduce the issue with this Profile build :D

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Can't reproduce it either.

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

The joys of coding ;)

Here's another build without logging but with some essential changes. I really hope this one doesn't block on exit. Kinda groping in the dark here.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Tom wrote:The joys of coding ;)
:)
Tom wrote:Here's another build without logging but with some essential changes. I really hope this one doesn't block on exit. Kinda groping in the dark here.
No delay, works like a charm.

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Slow shutdown again for me... :(
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

I can only forge ahead with new builds, so here's another one. This is a baffling issue, but I suspect the database engine might be causing this.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Tom wrote:I can only forge ahead with new builds, so here's another one. This is a baffling issue, but I suspect the database engine might be causing this.
Shutdown is slow again with this build for me.

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Can't reproduce at work (Windows 7 Enterprise x64), will try later at home (then you'll know if you fixed it or not, for real. :D)
Unfortunately mrfox seems to still have the issue.

A little theory here... My disk at home is not on SSD.
I made a test on my SSD as well, it's much faster but you can notice a delay.

Edit: Still same delay at home.

Seems it's reading/writing config-2.db & config-2.db-journal a lot during exit.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Build 7078 - still experiencing it
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Andreasvb wrote:A little theory here... My disk at home is not on SSD.
I made a test on my SSD as well, it's much faster but you can notice a delay.
Definitely an issue with excessive writes. It's not even noticeable on an SSD (since they can handle more simultaneous writes than a HDD).

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Yes, and it's good to minimize unnecessary writes to SSD as well.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

any chance Tom of a "Rename" option when you right-click on a file? so once I have played/auditioned the crap-sounding kick I can rename it from "AWSOME MAGAZINE COVER CD KICK.WAV" to "crap kick 1.wav" ?

would be immensely handy...

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

Yes, Blackout, I'm working that, but this is the private beta testing forum, please stay on topic. There is a public suggestions forum for ideas.
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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

whoops. apologies. OK I posted my results of the blind test today :)

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Re: Build 7053 (Alpha 999 RC)

No prob, new build today! Looking good :)
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